The real problem with the Mindset of "Muslims" in entering the realm of debate with the Atheist

There has to be a rethink of how to debate.

The real problem with the Mindset of "Muslims" in entering the realm of debate with the Atheist 

1. The use of prepositional login in debate. First to prove God exists then ----> Stepping into the logic of the Greeks. 

2. Not Praising Allah First and using the universe to show His oneness, power and attributes

3. The Atheist dismisses everything supernatural therefore the "Worshipper Of God" disables himself to enter his "realm of debate.

4.  To enter into the realm with  their principles" such as "No Sin", "No Evil", Just sensory impulses the worshiper has to prove "Evil", prove "Sin" prove everything on the Atheist principles.

5. When the worshipper sees the power and might how the "Roof" is constructed, keeping out harmful things, the elements that can harm, that can cause massive "shocks"  balancing how the hail stones drop, its size, its wight. The Atheist/Satanist sees "Nothing".  

6. Proving from the "Signs" (The Creation) --> that God exists rather than using the "Fitrah" First and the creation as his Oneness and support of the Fitrah.

7. Limiting oneself to the ID argument, disabling oneself again.

8. Disabling oneself in "functions" of the body, the dependencies. That the hands where created to Heal oneself, to fix a wound, that was "intended" in the creation of the Hand.

In All regards, The Atheists Looks and sees "Nothing"

There has to be a rethink of how to debate with a Satanist.

Is proving God Existence falling into a debate with Satanists (Ash'ari ways)

Entering into their framework of Debate of "Proving God". The Quran does not start with that rather it Praises Allah and demonstrates his Oneness. 

Is it lowering oneself to enter and facilitate this logic taken from the Greek method a dry and unemotional, lacking depth method. 

Does it distract lose focus on the aspect of the "Created", "Fashioned",  "Harmony of heavens and the earth" How the two are separate and linked "Creations". How the beauty of the  "Architect" is demonstrated. 

Taken a whole book to "Prove" God enters into starting point of the "Satanists". Rather to to give that the same percentage the Quran does to proving God which is a mere type of Mockery and to "Move on". 

That is the qur'anic way.

The Two worlds cannot reconcile because the "Satanists" believe the immediate "cause of everything" is the visible. 

Such as from the statement. 

My God Heals me.

- The "Satanists would say" the Doctor did.

- The Believer would say the Doctor did by Gods Will.

The "Deists" Also we can say are say are "Satanists" If we say they believe in God but  are left to our own devices then that is no better than Satan who believes in God. 

I believe this is detrimental way for a Muslim to enter, 

  

Why is the Atheist view (framework) of creation satanic? and tools it develops will continue under this framework

The framework looking at the creation is lifeless, devoid of harmony, beauty and depth. The argument is dead and cold with no meaning. Life is reduced to a blob with no complexity and dependencies for example the dependencies of the "finger" to the self and to the brain, all it touches, to its limit (size) , its relationship to the world, it's ability to be nimble and cut and able to bandage one self up,  is ignored. Arguing that the hereafter, the soul and God is an impossible thought has within it a cold and dark satanic twist to it. 

Its predecessor scientists flirted with the occult, al-chemie and many sciences intertwined with dangerous occult practices maybe that has something to do with the modern world being as it is. 

White collar crime, financial crime, crime against humanity, sexual crime, what God in Quran talks about is the crime against God. To be pagan, polytheist, Atheist, rejector, thankless to the creator. 

Relying on culture for basis of morality brought forth worst of its creatures "hitler"ic Germans, Lenin and Polpot with the continuing slaughter of Muslims and Palestinians by the Germanic "white" horde. Sexual deviancy, fornication, sexualization of everything and the Teacup if it deemed to be worth it

Satanic defined in Abrahamic terms (not yours) as the one that doesn't believe in Satan must come up with another word.

Vedic Aryans, Confucius, Zoroaster. They would have no choice but to submit.

 The "clash" of religions is an artificial creation by the sectarian peoples. Masses.

I believe that the Vedic Aryans composing the Gathas, Zoroaster and his followers, If a clear message have come to them to follow the straight path and to Worship God. They would listen and obey.

In fact many of their descendants have done so.

Philosophies developed by cultures is not something that should be used against the Message of the prophets of Islam. It is an aid to it. A correction. 

Do not clash the "religions" because of "identities". 

God is all Good

Worship of God, following the prophets, leads to the virtues of all goodness. Inner and outer. 

In supreme godly morals, angelic characteristics that all politicians fake.

A deep consequence of following your nature and obeying God. Since virtue and good characteristics 

are what all humanity strive for in fake speech but is attained by the worshipper of God 

in his foundation, solid, natural and brick like. In killing he cherishes life that only God can take the soul believes all judgement.

rests in actions linked to the hereafter.

Perennial philosophy comes to an end when it reaches Islam

 Those perennial philosophers and pagans can get away with its philosophy until a decisive "Message comes". The Aryans/Iranians hymns to Goddesses whilst drinking soma intoxicants if they received the decisive message I am sure they would reject their ways if a decisive message came. It transpires they did. From this and other pagan practices perennial principles can be drawn.

"No Religion will be accepted by Allah (The One God, The Creator with no partners)  except Islam" 

It is as if the Last Testament to Mankind sent a message to the perennialists. It stops HERE.

Three Amazing attributes of Allah in how it relates to the creation

 

1. الخالق

خَلْقٌ signifies The act of measuring; or determining the measure, proportion, or the like, of a thing; and the making a thing by measure, or according to the measure of another thing; or proportioning a thing to another thing; synonym.تَقْدِي . He measured, or proportioned, (قَدَّرَ,) 

2. البَارِئُ

البَارِئُ, ...created the things that are created, not after any similitude, or model;

or He who hath created those things free from any incongruity, or faultiness, and distinguished,

one from another, by various forms and outward appearances.

3. المُصَوِّرُ

صَوَّرَ Formed, fashioned, shaped; pictured, painted; drew;
represented;

Three attributes of Allah related to his creating mentioned in the Quran. The Quran teaches that the diversity of the creatures is in itself a sign from Allah. The types, structures, forms and movements relate to Gods attributes of creating. Planning, creating, forming, refining and completing.

[1] ﴿هُوَ اللَّهُ الْخَالِقُ الْبَارِئُ الْمُصَوِّرُ ۖ لَهُ الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَىٰ ۚ يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۖ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ﴾

[ الحشر: 24]

[2] https://arabiclexicon.hawramani.com/

Arabic-English Lexicon by Edward William Lane (d. 1876) المعجم العربي الإنجليزي لإدوارد وليام لين

Scientism as worship

Scientism, placing science in the place of worship and answers. to life

Know your place.

Causes and effects ate not the "only" thing about life.

Scientism does not explain "life" in totality just like a ferrari driven by the man the experience and meaning of the drive is not through engine mechanics.

Diversity, abundance of food is not limited to the biological process, more questions are raised by those not narrow minded scientismist.

The integral, the derivative, the balance of the equation and art work, is it the art you hide behind.

The hail that comes down from the sky in perfect balance begs the question "Why" not a huge lump.

The scientismist  explains it away as a chemical process

Breaking the principle of the sole worship of "One God" Leads to ....

Divinity to be incarnate in man; 

In Objects;

In what you carve with your hands;

Your trust and worship of the spirits;

In (mystic/esoteric) philosophies from Greek to the Indian

To the Occult;

To Evil shrouded by nice names;

Seeking aid to that which cannot help you;

Straying you from the belief of the prophets until the day or resurrection 

Below worship of the snake for fertility 

Message to all those who hate Islam, Muslims and God

 Be careful, 

You are battling against something you will never win, 

You are the loser, in this life and the next.

Nothing can aid you, nothing will come to your aid.

It is in your best interest to at least Aid the people of God so your punishment in the afterlife maybe  lessened.

A plan to make Hijrah (for a Pakistani national from a poorer background)

  

The blessings of having the Gulf countries and Saudi as a source of employment for Pakistanis is much unappreciated by Pakistanis themselves. Without those countries remittances to Pakistan would be almost Zero the chaos and poverty within the population much exacerbated (for generations). 1 year work in Gulf/Saudi countries would equate to approximately 5-6 years within Pakistan. So do the Math.

For the unskilled Pakistani should 

1. Make a plan

2. Pick a job 

https://beoe.gov.pk/foreign-jobs

3. Struggle towards that plan in order to gain experience.

An example being, I am  a Pakistani and want to be driver in Dubai. 
Plan maybe to do laboring the Dubai for a year or two, gain relevant license in that duration, then apply for driving jobs. With experience and dedication pay goes up.

Lowest pay jobs tend to be from $300 per Month onward including accommodation and food.

Experienced from $600-$2000 ONWARDS (INCLUDING FOOD AND  ACCOMMODATION) 

A plan to make Hijrah from the west (from the UK)

 The masjids lack speaking about Hijrah and plans to make it. Maybe because many have immigrated and settled in the west and the urge and motivation lacks with the primary concern to establish communities where they are. This however in my opinion goes against what is meant to be Islamicaly and principles of leaving non-Muslim lands to be with ones own peoples (of believers, Emaan and rule) which has hundreds of benefits for the Muslim and fulfilling ones Islamic objectives. 

What you can do (from the UK).

- Buy a property (50k) which can give you a 10% yield. (this would amount to £5-6,000 passive income). North east of UK, via auction sites, multi room letting. 

- invest in gold bullion (20 k) which can give you a 10-15% yield tax free (from the royalmint.com) (£2500)

- If possible start something online which can return you £100 to £200 monthly income.

This establishes some sort of passive income

This is a base and you must continually build on this if possible.

For Qatar I would recommend buying a coffee shop (40k) getting the business visa and moving the family. Whatever country I would recommend seeking the business (company) visa (can be easiest way to relocate) after this using your skills. 

Lastly using your skills to earn an income.
If you have no skills look at driving opportunities or teaching English in the country or some sort of manual work with skills (Air conditioning engineer, Heavy truck driver).
Plan this before relocating. Western skills are respected in the Muslim world.

 

Tree and serpent worship

Search for materialistic origins. Amongst the semitic, aryan, turanian all irrelavant. 
human sacrifice hand in hand with serpent worship. 
Surely the devils brought it, and more, ..... 

Artificial intelligence and the the Atheist

What is the joke.

The joke on the atheist is  defining consciousness.

The joke is "consciousness" is more that you perceive or understand.

the joke is even in defining and templating intelligence of the human.

A group of the satanic strand will vehemently  disagree. 

The internal debate about "will it be conscious" is a debate on your limited understanding of what it is. Shallow, scientific, computational, reductionist, devoid of anything post material, it will be a mimic of the Atheist though to carry out a command like "Polpot" to destroy with no recourse to repentance.

The passion and religion of the Atheist to "Create" will be his downfall. 

The difference between the "Good" of the culture and the "Good" of guidance

The "Good" of the culture, social norms taught.

Self benefit, selfish "good" the good of the perception of others.

The Good that follows the Queen in her Order

The Good that follows the culture waiting for the societal to determine the Good.

The good that sways with the wind.

The Good of the Atheist, Lenin, Polpot, Hitler,  Millions slaughtered for the "objective" good to be fulfilled. The troops (normal people) from the society following the commands.

The Godly  "Good" ... Deep, connected to God, the "Real" good, values the soul  as a "Self" that created by God and can only be taken by God or his command.

The good that is connected to "Sin" in that the God can forgive the "Sin" the Yearning of the soul forgiving the "Guilt".

A deep understanding of evil and it's forces not the superficial evil of the Atheist. 

On a Lighter note deeper meaning of the name Micheal -Hebrew/Arabic analysis

 Ma (arabic ma of negation)

 Ka (arabic -adatul Tashbeeh comparison, i.e. likeness to, similarity)

 eel (Allah, Ellah, Elohim)

"Nothing like the Creator"

Transformers and the Kaballa Magick

 Another indoctrination by the Elite

Megatron (Metatron) a fallen Angel and the Logos. All Enlightened by the shiny sphere that will illuminate.

Teaching Kids "Magic" via subtle forms. Science fiction again destroying the minds capacity blurring the  

"lines between "What is considered REALITY

Now the Mind (Mental) has "REALITY" and "SCIENCE FICTION"   

Whatever the "Movie" deems to be Science FICTION  and "REAL" is dictated by the "MOVIE" with the MIND,

The new Covid a warning for humanity

Covid 1 came unsuspecting

The world stood still

Radio Jockeys silenced, peoples forced to wear burqas, opinions dismantled, life's joy gone

A Warning from God, anymore mischief, plots and plans against those who worship God, maybe something greater will come about before your End of life. 

What i fear (as a muslim)

Worship until certainty comes to you

I fear deviancy before death!

I fear being Misguided before death!

I fear temptation before death!

I fear going astray before death!

Advice to the Muslim, Prayer first (before any decisions)

 Before joining any (islamic) organisation that takes your time make sure first you have established communal prayers and Tahajud first, first, first as a priority. Ibaadah, Ibaadah maxing out with =some regular fasting be it only one day a month.  

Then take any decisions.